What was your impression of him then — and then as it ended?ANITA HILL, PROFESSOR AT BRANDEIS UNIVERSITY: The first time I met Joe Biden was really at the hearing. There are women and men now who are just — really have lost confidence in our government to respond to the problem of gender violence.HILL: I’m hoping that all of our leaders are going to be looking at this and thinking about ways to move the country forward.STOLBERG: He last month said “to this day I regret I couldn’t come up with a way to get her the kind of hearing she deserved, given the courage she showed by reaching out to us.” I wonder how you reacted when he said that to the public?HILL: Well, right now I react the same way. As I think it is to a number of people.STOLBERG: That sort of brings us back, in a way, to the Kavanaugh hearings, and I wonder if you could just draw out for me a little bit more of the parallels that you see between these two hearings.HILL: Well, one of the first things I would note is that there was no process in place in the Senate to address this issue, there was nothing. We had talked on the telephone prior to the hearing.STOLBERG: Did he promise you anything at that time in terms of the way he was going to conduct the hearing?HILL: One of the things he did was to go over what supposedly would be the process and that was that I would testify first in the morning and then that Judge [Clarence] Thomas would have a chance to respond. We may earn commission on some of the items you choose to buy. No. And I will just say this: It set the stage — from 1991 — set the stage for what happened in 2018.HILL: It set the stage for what people now think are sham hearings, which are supposed to be about truth and about finding the best people for positions for power, testing their character and fitness for those positions. I don’t see any evidence that they then said that they didn’t want to testify other than what we’ve heard from Senator, Vice President, now ex-Vice President Biden. There is clearly a connection.STOLBERG: One of the big differences between your hearing and the Kavanaugh hearing [of Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh] — and I assume that’s what you mean when were referring to 2018 — is that you actually had corroborating witnesses but they were not allowed to appear. But it is really about the debasement of the process.HILL: The Senate Judiciary Committee hearing for a person to sit on the Supreme Court in a lifetime appointment is especially a place where people want the process to have integrity. As you know, that didn’t happen that way, and that was merely the first disappointment that I think I had — was that the process got swept up in [inaudible]. And again, you can describe that as an apology, but what I’m more interested in is what are our leaders going to do in the future. I wonder if you still feel that way.HILL: I feel that way. I’m really open to people changing but it’s not enough to say, “I couldn’t have done anything then.”’ What I want to hear from him, and what I want to hear from all of the candidates, is that this problem that we are experiencing now, that we are more aware of than ever before, problems of sexual harassment and sexual assault, women’s integrity to protect their own bodies — that this is a big problem. So I’m wondering: Did it come out of the blue? Thomas was able to offer a rebuttal before I had ever said a word, and there was an attempt by the Republicans to introduce my statement before I had a chance to present it.STOLBERG: I’m wondering what your impression was then of Biden going into the hearing and how it changed coming out of the hearing.HILL: I think my impression going into the hearing was already disappointed with the fact that he had changed the process.
This content is imported from YouTube. As many as 60, or maybe 70, percent of people who file complaints are retaliated against. Meanwhile, Thomas would be confirmed for his position on the Supreme Court.“I’m sure somewhere in me there’s anger,” Hill admitted from her home in Waltham, Massachusetts (she’s been teaching at nearby Brandeis University since 1998).
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